"I'll be sitting in the same seat by 2027," the Prime Minister stated, joking that if the discussion was successful, he might invite us into Downing Street for a follow-up chat next year.
For a PM, there's never truly time off for prime ministers. Just an hour before our chat started, Starmer had been on the phone with Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky and trying to understand exactly what had transpired in Venezuela, where his key friend, US President Donald Trump, had recently launched a strike against and detained its leader, Nicolás Maduro.
When our lengthy talk, which was considerably lengthier than normal, had finished, Maduro had been charged in New York.
But as the year commences, the Prime Minister seems to have had a kind of a reboot. Perhaps even just some relaxation with the family at Chequers, the prime minister's official country residence.
This appeared to have resulted in improved morale than at the saggy conclusion of 2025, a awful year politically for him.
But are he and his allies being unrealistic if they think his political fate are about to improve?
The grisly truth for the PM is that many of his fellow MPs think he's not very good at his job. A faction of them would rather gamble and oust him in 2026.
However Starmer was dismissing such talk in the interview on Saturday morning.
Repeatedly he stated he'd be "evaluated at the poll", insisting no one would strip his electoral mandate from him – even if the optimal path of preventing Nigel Farage and Reform UK entering No 10 might be for Labour to replace its leader.
"This is the struggle of our generation and I aim to guide the party," he affirmed.
The challenge for the prime minister is that he will be scrutinised long before then – in a major set of elections in May throughout the UK. He sought to contend, perhaps too much, that they are about who runs councils, and who runs the devolved administrations in Holyrood or Cardiff – and not a verdict on Westminster.
True – to some extent. But even though he may be reluctant to acknowledge it, No 10 will be judged by those elections too.
Despite this, Sir Keir suggesting that there were no scenario under which he would step down, should one of his colleagues contested his leadership for the job, should those elections prove disastrous for Labour.
He tried to explain his low poll ratings by saying the public was naturally impatient for things to improve. He tried to assure the interviewer, and the public, that 2026 would be a change.
The economic situation would improve despite rising unemployment, he said, when policies the government enacted during their first rocky year began to bear fruit.
His core argument is that soon the country will "turn the corner".
The prime minister may have spoken with renewed vitality than observed from him for a some time – less tense, maybe, with a longer slot to talk.
However, in spite of encountering demands from many directions for a bolder approach, with increased political direction, more vigour, more speed and more immediacy, his explanations were well-known ones.
Given that he is in considerable political peril, does he need a change of tack?
No administration, and certainly not one that has been unpopular for many months, has everything its own way.
Sir Keir's problems are not just because government is hard, but because he and his colleagues have faltered, including in the last few weeks.
The prime minister admitted that he regretted saying he was "happy" to welcome back the Egyptian-British activist Alaa Abd El Fattah to the UK after an backlash when past remarks he'd made in the past – including calls for Zionists and police to be killed – came to light.
Starmer attributed it to "the process" for failing to identify what the activist had said before – a more diplomatic way of saying not my fault.
And he is inviting evident political dangers as the year unfolds. His alliance with the US president entails a new risk after Trump's strikes on Venezuela.
Having interviewed Sir Keir Starmer, a former human rights lawyer who opposed the war in Iraq, over a long period, the idea he would be content with such action seems implausible.
He stated he was a "career-long proponent of international law" but the public "just lack the entire story at the moment".
Critics demanded condemn it prior to the interview. And the administration is expected to face more pressure to give an explicit view in Parliament in the next few days.
There has also always been growing desire in the Labour ranks to reverse or renegotiate some of the outcomes of Brexit.
The PM denies he's heading in that direction, but his new firmer commitment to align more closely with the EU's single market – the vast economic European market – will probably provoke protests that he is reneging on his vow never to try to reverse the results that stemmed from Brexit.
A commitment to cosy up to more of the single market will delight many on his own side, but it is simple material for Reform and the Conservatives to
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